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[08:12]<TuN> !help
[08:13]<TuN> Hi every one!
[08:13]<TuN> I'm Ali.
[08:15]<@BC_Programming> hello
[08:15]<@BC_Programming> jacky:Hello
[08:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Hello
[08:15]<@jacky> BC_Programming: Nice to see you back. :)
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> yeah got your PM :)
[08:16]<@jacky> Tun is another one that I bumped into... something with TCL and his bot... and through conversation, I found out that he does some other langs.
[08:16]<@jacky> :)
[08:16]<@BC_Programming> speaking of which, PM?
[08:16]<@jacky> sure
[08:17]<TuN> has any one seen the new mac pro, coming in december?
[08:18]<@BC_Programming> is that the cylindrical one? The website they made for it is hilarious
[08:19]<TuN> yes
[08:19]<@BC_Programming> apparently mounting a fan was an "engineering miracle"
[08:19]<TuN> "7 teraflops of computing power"
[08:19]<TuN> lol
[08:19]<TuN> fancy words and beautiful design. that's how we see future powerful machines.
[08:19]<@BC_Programming> and they look like a cake of tar
[08:20]<TuN> but for some reason, mac machines are faster.
[08:20]<TuN> when it comes to adobe
[08:20]<TuN> photoshop, AI, indesign etc.
[08:21]<TuN> with even the same specs compared to a PC
[08:21]<TuN> may be because they allocate resources reasonably, and OS is better?
[08:21]<@BC_Programming> Probably because everything Adobe makes in windows is crap
[08:22]<TuN> I don't think so. Apple hasn't allowed flash till now on there machines.
[08:22]<TuN> so adobe really mates apple.
[08:22]<TuN> Because of them, Adobe Flash is history now!
[08:23]<@BC_Programming> if you say so... :P
[08:23]<TuN> well yes.
[08:23]<TuN> I made some very powerful flash websites 4, 5 years back.
[08:23]<TuN> but customers wanted it to be shifted to a platform which can be viewed on apple
[08:24]<TuN> iphones, ipads, macbooks.
[08:24]<TuN> so no one uses flash now
[08:25]<+camerongray> It is pretty cool how they have made the new mac pro so small, but I really don't like the design :P
[08:26]<TuN> chicks will love it.
[08:26]<+camerongray> Just seems so impractical from the point of view of actually putting it somewhere
[08:26]<+camerongray> No space on my desk so my PC has to sit on the floor, if I had a Mac Pro I would end up knocking it over every 2 seconds
[08:26]<TuN> camerongray, take it from a designer's point of view.
[08:26]<TuN> it looks OK if you are a designer.
[08:26]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[08:26]<TuN> but what is 7 teraflops?
[08:27]<TuN> :D
[08:27]<+camerongray> And the fact there is no internal HDDs means you would need external ones for big video editing projects .etc (Like it's intended market) so soon that sleek machine is now buried amongst extra hardware
[08:28]<TuN> I did not know about that
[08:28]<+camerongray> Well, there is an SSD
[08:28]<+camerongray> And they go up to 1tb, but that gets into stupid money
[08:28]<TuN> it has 1TB
[08:28]<TuN> SSD
[08:29]<TuN> that is enough!
[08:29]<+camerongray> But costs like £500 to get that size :P
[08:29]<TuN> you have a point
[08:29]<+camerongray> I can't really think any situation where someone would need Mac Pro power but not have space to put a tower machine
[08:30]<TuN> i want to have a machine some thing similar to...
[08:30]<TuN> that movie, die hard 3
[08:30]<TuN> i guess
[08:31]<TuN> where that hacker was sitting in his room, sucking electricity out of all the lane
[08:31]<+camerongray> lol, never seen that film :P
[08:32]<PCdoc> anyone used raspberry pi ?
[08:32]<+camerongray> Yep, chatting through one right now :P
[08:32]<+camerongray> PCdoc: http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/Mull.jpg
[08:33]<@BC_Programming> PCDoc: well at least you didnt call it a Pie this time ha
[08:33]<+camerongray> heeh
[08:33]<TuN> http://www.oxid.it/images/c&a_diehard4_2.png
[08:34]<PCdoc> :D
[08:34]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: hehe
[08:34]<PCdoc> I was planning to sell them here ..
[08:34]<TuN> http://www.epimundo.com/wp-content/upLoads/vlcsnap-2010-07-01-01h37m02s231.png
[08:34]<TuN> that's the computer scene
[08:34]<TuN> hsi nick was WAR10CK
[08:34]<TuN> :D
[08:34]<@BC_Programming> !seen Moocher
[08:35]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Depends if people would buy them - Only people who would really want one would be computer people who would probably just buy online
[08:35]<PCdoc> I read in our country, raspberry first advertised that it will only allow one raspberry pi per person/family
[08:36]<PCdoc> later when it went popular it said you can buy any numbers you want
[08:36]<+camerongray> Yeah, they had issues getting stock at first so limited
[08:36]<+camerongray> They were very popular yeah
[08:36]<TuN> what's a raspberry pi?
[08:36]<TuN> :s
[08:36]<+camerongray> !g Raspberry Pi
[08:36]<TuN> is it some thing like TV BOX?
[08:36]<PCdoc> TuN: its a credit card sized computer
[08:36]<TuN> andoid TV BOX?
[08:37]<PCdoc> or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
[08:37]<TuN> ahh, it's different.
[08:37]<+camerongray> Can be used as one yeah but that's if you put android on it
[08:37]<TuN> yeah, we have that in Middle east.
[08:37]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Just not sure if the average consumer going into your store would buy one - Not like you can really use it as a regular PC
[08:37]<PCdoc> its available for 2500 indian rupees
[08:37]<TuN> but it's only used as TV BOX
[08:37]<TuN> attached with wireless mouse and keyboard
[08:38]<+camerongray> Really needs a faster CPU
[08:38]<PCdoc> approx. 40US $
[08:38]<+camerongray> Mine runs my IRC client fine, but wouldn't do much more than that
[08:38]<TuN> what about HDD?
[08:38]<+camerongray> SD Card
[08:39]<TuN> ahan
[08:39]<PCdoc> Rather than that I think the NUC from Intel is powerful?
[08:39]<TuN> max support?
[08:39]<PCdoc> NUC has ssd
[08:39]<TuN> max sd memory it can support
[08:39]<TuN> ?
[08:39]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Yeah, the NUC is really powerful, but a lot more expensive
[08:39]<+camerongray> No idea, does SDHC so probably most cards available
[08:39]<PCdoc> camerongray: I saw one from inside at a seminar hosted by Intel
[08:39]<+camerongray> Cool
[08:40]<PCdoc> wow! the ssd was sosmall
[08:40]<PCdoc> so small*
[08:40]<+camerongray> The Celeron one has the same CPU as my HTPC - And that is fast enough under Windows 7
[08:40]<PCdoc> like a laptop wifi card
[08:40]<TuN> that is a wonderful device I must say
[08:40]<PCdoc> TuN: which ? Nuc ?
[08:41]<TuN> no, the raspberry pi
[08:41]<PCdoc> oh
[08:41]<+camerongray> It's amazing for the price yeah
[08:41]<PCdoc> Yeah
[08:41]<+camerongray> Pretty limited in terms of use though - Web browsing kills it
[08:41]<+camerongray> I do have one of the first ones though so it only has 256mb RAM wheras the new ones have 512
[08:41]<+camerongray> But it's the CPU that always ran at 100%
[08:42]<PCdoc> RAm is on-board?
[08:42]<+camerongray> Yeah
[08:42]<+camerongray> 34 days uptime on mine though :D
[08:42]<PCdoc> I wonder if it can be changed. The IC
[08:42]<+camerongray> No way :P
[08:42]<PCdoc> Here, they repair RAM also
[08:43]<PCdoc> refurbished with an year warranty - DDR1
[08:43]<+camerongray> wow
[08:43]<+camerongray> Doubt it would work on the Pi, the RAM is stacked on top of the CPU
[08:43]<+camerongray> Not worth it at all at that price
[08:44]<+camerongray> Mine is fine for IRC though - Sitting around 10% CPU and used 43mb RAM
[08:44]<PCdoc> like the ATom processor laptop came to me once for repair. The processor was soldered on the board. Poor guy had to think of replacing the whole board
[08:45]<+camerongray> Loads of new laptops are like that
[08:45]<+camerongray> But CPUs rarely fail
[08:45]<PCdoc> yeah
[08:45]<TuN> and RAMs dont fail that often
[08:45]<TuN> :D
[08:45]<PCdoc> most CPU fail in recent days were mostly 775 socket of desktop
[08:45]<PCdoc> TuN: ram fail often
[08:45]<PCdoc> more tha often
[08:45]<PCdoc> than*
[08:46]<TuN> in 1998 when I had a Pentium Processor, i remember the ram used to fail after every few weeks :D
[08:46]<TuN> it was terrible
[08:46]<+camerongray> lol
[08:46]<+camerongray> You'd never see parts like RAM being fixed here
[08:46]<TuN> and it was expensiveeee
[08:46]<PCdoc> TuN: the pentium 1 also had a cache memory module
[08:46]<TuN> my first PC was a 486
[08:46]<TuN> :D
[08:46]<+camerongray> Since minimum wage is £6.32/hour
[08:47]<PCdoc> mine too.. I mean my dad's. I was a child :P
[08:47]<+camerongray> So the cost of labor alone would outwigh the profit from the RAM
[08:47]<+camerongray> Same here :P
[08:47]<PCdoc> and camerongray was not even borned I think :P
[08:47]<+camerongray> My first PC: http://flat.camerongray.me/~camerong/public/photos/ambra.jpg
[08:47]<TuN> and I used to stare at that windows logo while loading
[08:47]<+camerongray> Well, my parent's
[08:47]<+camerongray> Who later gave it to me
[08:47]<TuN> and there was a strange noise, may be from the harddisk, when windows was loading
[08:47]<TuN> grhssh grsshh
[08:47]<TuN> :D
[08:47]<PCdoc> cd drive ??
[08:48]<+camerongray> That was added later
[08:48]<TuN> no hard drive
[08:48]<+camerongray> Along with a sound card
[08:48]<TuN> cd drive was not in 486
[08:48]<PCdoc> cd drives were not introduced. Oh! it was late instroduced in india
[08:48]<PCdoc> in the 1990's I think
[08:48]<TuN> it only had a floppy drive
[08:48]<+camerongray> That photo was taken a couple of weeks ago :D - Still set up in the corner
[08:48]<+camerongray> The 486 was from the 90s :P
[08:48]<TuN> camerongray that's a lovely memory from childhood!
[08:48]<+camerongray> Mine is a 1992
[08:48]<TuN> i had 486 in 1996 in Pakistan.
[08:48]<PCdoc> The bigger sized floppy drives
[08:48]<TuN> and i was like, the only person in my area to had a computer :D
[08:48]<TuN> hehe
[08:49]<TuN> we used to play that game in dos, i forgot the name
[08:49]<+camerongray> Yeah - really nice having it all working
[08:49]<PCdoc> Pacman?
[08:49]<TuN> no!
[08:49]<+camerongray> And some really funny documents on it
[08:49]<TuN> some other.
[08:49]<TuN> and in 1999 Alice.exe came, the first dos AI application
[08:49]<TuN> :D
[08:49]<PCdoc> had to boot in ms-dos first and then type Win to load windows
[08:49]<+camerongray> I have a bit of a vintage computer "museum" forming :P
[08:50]<PCdoc> was that 3.1?
[08:50]<+camerongray> Yeah
[08:50]<TuN> there's nutella in the background camerongray :D
[08:51]<PCdoc> were few games like Pacman, bricks
[08:51]<TuN> any one remember Alice.exe?
[08:51]<+camerongray> lol, yep :P
[08:52]<TuN> Windows 2000 came on 4 CD's in starting!
[08:52]<TuN> windows 97, 98, ME were all on ONE CD, as far as I remember.
[08:54]<PCdoc> http://i.imgur.com/Ei37Eb1.jpg
[08:54]<TuN> lollll
[08:56]<PCdoc> Wonder why a windows 8 machine will have floppy drives!
[08:56]<+camerongray> lol!
[08:56]<+camerongray> Pretty sure that's a joke...
[08:56]<PCdoc> 1 of 1713
[08:56]<PCdoc> haha
[08:56]<TuN> that is made on adobe
[08:56]<PCdoc> ist available on google images search.
[08:56]<PCdoc> so many websites rare hosting
[08:56]<PCdoc> are *
[08:57]<+camerongray> Yeah, this is my growing computer museum: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8Cqgj2XrXFk/Um0pZDsPlNI/AAAAAAAAAiY/8QT5m_CQCYc/w1363-h1022-no/IMG_20131027_145435.jpg
[08:57]<+camerongray> Original IBM PC XT on the right :P
[08:57]<PCdoc> jacky: the bot should not warn on urls :P
[08:58]<@jacky> it just saw 9 letters.. it doesn't differentiate on urls
[08:58]<@jacky> but.. it is a nice bot... it will "forget" that offense. so if he does it again next week or something, it won't bite him, as the second offense
[08:58]<@jacky> :)
[08:59]<TuN> camerongray, couldn't find original image of that floppy disk
[08:59]<TuN> it is the hipster edition of windows 8
[08:59]<TuN> :D
[08:59]<PCdoc> That day I just opened a bad hard drive, for the first time :P plugged it into power and wow! the speed at which it spins is amazing
[08:59]<+camerongray> ahh, lol
[09:00]<+camerongray> lol - Just noticed that that hard drive in the photo has more than 2000x the capacity of all those machines put together!
[09:00]<PCdoc> Immental1200: !! the topic and the thing is over ..
[09:00]<PCdoc> now m also not even bothered
[09:00]<PCdoc> nor camerongray
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> sadly you can't turn hard drives into sawblade weapons
[09:01]<@BC_Programming> not enough torque
[09:01]<+camerongray> PCdoc: huh?
[09:01]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: lol
[09:01]<PCdoc> he replied in the forums ..
[09:01]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: What about that 10mb MFM one in front of the "PCs for dummies" book :P
[09:01]<PCdoc> chat forums
[09:02]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: What was the old ThinkPad you had?
[09:02]<PCdoc> I have one R41
[09:02]<PCdoc> the client dumped it here :P
[09:02]<PCdoc> said do what ever you want
[09:02]<+camerongray> Or you had two of them but one broke or something
[09:02]<PCdoc> it Pentium 3
[09:02]<@BC_Programming> do it work goodly?
[09:03]<PCdoc> Some problem, tsuck at post
[09:03]<PCdoc> stuck *
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: Thinkpad 755CDV
[09:04]<+camerongray> Oh nice! That's a 755c I have :D
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> CDV is better
[09:04]<PCdoc> BC_Programming: for god sake don't involve me in your next reply :P I am out of it now neither do I care :P
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> it has two extra letters, it must be
[09:04]<+camerongray> hehe
[09:05]<+camerongray> Yeah, CDV is better :P
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> had a Pentium 75
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> without MMX
[09:05]<+camerongray> Faster CPU, bigger HDDs, CD-ROm
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> I can't remember if it had the FDIV bug or not
[09:05]<+camerongray> Ahh - Mine has a 486DX2, 12mb RAM and a 380mb or so HDD
[09:05]<PCdoc> yeah the old PATA hdd were big
[09:05]<+camerongray> Bigger as in capacity...
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> mine had 8MB, it just had the base RAM
[09:06]<PCdoc> I opened one when I was a kid, had no knowledge about power supply, gave 12v to it and it spinned for second
[09:06]<PCdoc> and died
[09:06]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Ahh, mine has an upgrade card under the floppy drive
[09:06]<+camerongray> Used to be owned by Sony
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> after it failed I bought a for parts one off ebay and it had a 16GB module so I would have had 24MB, but I never got it working again, System Board failed
[09:07]<+camerongray> Has a modem and token ring card in it too but no cables
[09:07]<PCdoc> few days ago there was a guy here came asking for 10GB or 4Gb hdd! I was shocked to hear I mean buy a pen drive instead lol
[09:07]<+camerongray> BC_Programming: Where was it made if you can remember?
[09:07]<TuN> lol
[09:07]<@BC_Programming> Canada
[09:07]<TuN> may be he meant that PCdoc
[09:07]<+camerongray> Ahh
[09:07]<+camerongray> I see a trend here, mine was made in Scotland :P
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> System board failures are fun... I like how a completely clean DOS boot diskette showed "Divide Overflow" instead of the prompt
[09:08]<PCdoc> TuN: no he said PATA hard drive internal
[09:08]<TuN> oh
[09:08]<+camerongray> Interestinly, all my vintage computers were made here :P
[09:08]<+camerongray> Well, the three I have set up
[09:08]<+camerongray> The rest are English
[09:08]<@jacky> ahh.. I remember beginning computing.. : http://tinyurl.com/lfwnerw ... then we got upgraded! : http://tinyurl.com/7vf5kw2
[09:08]<@jacky> it was great!
[09:08]<@BC_Programming> 90% of the time I couldn't get passed the password prompt, I think the keyboard controller was a victim of the failure
[09:09]<PCdoc> Yeah, now everything is made in china. Every customer who comes in, reads on most of the parts "Made in china". And they are like what?? made in china.. darn I don't want it
[09:09]<PCdoc> lol, made in china is not always its cheap stuff, the factories of leading brands are in china
[09:09]<+camerongray> jacky: lol!
[09:09]<@jacky> camerongray: :)
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> Jacky: Remember when they rolled out the 32-bit Abacus? 32-stones per line, 16 lines...
[09:10]<+camerongray> I don't get how people freak out so much about stuff being made in china!
[09:10]<@jacky> BC_Programming: you remember that too? wasn't that something?!?
[09:10]<@jacky> camerongray: (ah... so!)
[09:10]<@BC_Programming> I remember I threw windows on it, but then I couldn't reach the stones, was a huge pane
[09:10]<+camerongray> I mean sure it's nice to be typing on a keyboard thinking "this was made in Scotland" but we are hardly known for our workmanship
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: "Made in Scotland. Yes, they were drunk"
[09:11]<@jacky> camerongray: you are know for the elixir of the Gods!!
[09:11]<+camerongray> haha
[09:11]<@BC_Programming> also pane was not a typo above. That's just how clever it was
[09:11]<+camerongray> Yep, my laptop's Chinese
[09:12]<@jacky> BC_Programming: I saw that
[09:12]<@jacky> heh
[09:12]<+camerongray> Yep, so's my mouse
[09:12]<+camerongray> Really doesn't bother me :P
[09:12]<@jacky> mmm.... peking mouse
[09:12]<PCdoc> made in china ... china here means, no warranty guarentee, cheap parts used. Till when will it last? No idea
[09:12]<@jacky> with duck sauce
[09:12]<+camerongray> Means's stuff is cheaper
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> my mouse is made in China also
[09:12]<+camerongray> PCdoc: BIg brands surely offer warranties?
[09:12]<@BC_Programming> I've had it for like 7 years I think
[09:12]<+camerongray> My TV is Chinese - But it still has a warranty
[09:12]<+camerongray> Well, had, then started breaking
[09:12]<PCdoc> camerongray: no its like they think all things made in china means no warranty
[09:13]<@jacky> nobody else here remembers this same conversation, but it was about "Made in Japan", then "Made in Korea"
[09:13]<+camerongray> Ahh
[09:13]<@jacky> and on it goes....
[09:13]<+camerongray> But it sems to be happy again
[09:13]<PCdoc> made in taiwan
[09:13]<@jacky> China DID make some crappy drywall... I think it molded and made people sick
[09:13]<+camerongray> Actually, my TV may be Japanese
[09:13]<@jacky> camerongray: I think that guy with the rock and chisel... he may have actually invented the Ram Hammer too
[09:14]<@jacky> :)
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> camerongray: does it keep sticking on Anime channels?
[09:14]<@jacky> har
[09:14]<PCdoc> sir, made in taiwan, not china. Really?? umm well republic of CHINA
[09:14]<@jacky> taiwan is not the commie part
[09:14]<+camerongray> lol!
[09:14]<@jacky> they haven't been absorbed, yet
[09:14]<+camerongray> Doesn't actually say but it's Sony so probably Japan
[09:15]<PCdoc> yeah sony, panasonic
[09:15]<@jacky> you asked for it, TOYOTA!
[09:15]<+camerongray> Then again, the remote is made in Malaysia
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> My Toshiba's old hard drive was made in the Phillipines
[09:15]<PCdoc> some wd hdd are made in taiwan
[09:15]<@jacky> camerongray: huh? you mean that somebody in Malaysia can click a button and change your channels in Scotland??
[09:15]<@jacky> amazing....
[09:15]<+camerongray> haha!
[09:15]<PCdoc> loool
[09:15]<+camerongray> TV is really acting up though :(
[09:15]<+camerongray> It's not even 2 years old yet!
[09:15]<@jacky> it's them Malaysians!!
[09:16]<@jacky> (clicky, clicky, clicky)
[09:16]<PCdoc> jacky: there are universal remotes available in the market. Those can be used for any device that accept remote controls.
[09:16]<+camerongray> At least being in the UK you can take it to the store and argue that they should replace it when it's out of warranty due to vague laws!
[09:16]<@jacky> did it work?
[09:16]<+camerongray> They say that goods should last a "reasonable ammount of time"
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> I don't like what Malaysia did to Milk
[09:17]<+camerongray> So I could probably argue that under 2 years for a £350 sony TV isn't reasonable
[09:17]<@jacky> lifetime warranty! it it warranted until it dies
[09:17]<+camerongray> hehe
[09:17]<+camerongray> Only had a year officially
[09:17]<+camerongray> Think it's a failing chip - Sometimes reboots
[09:17]<@jacky> I liked that lifetime warranty on rattlesnake proof boots. "WHOSE" lifetime, eh?
[09:17]<+camerongray> Some days it gets really unhappy and reboots every 10 seconds and flashes error codes
[09:17]<+camerongray> haah!
[09:18]<@jacky> or is that "who's"... I always flub that one
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> It's always a sad day when you have to have a Computer put down
[09:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: what did they do to Milk ?
[09:18]<+camerongray> Issue is that the issue is so intermittent - If I take it back to the store, chances are it will work fine
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> jacky: Milk of Malaysia :P
[09:18]<+camerongray> Like, it's working perfectly now
[09:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: make it merciful... use the Ram Hammer!
[09:18]<@jacky> BC_Programming: ahhh... I didn't catch that... good one... :)
[09:19]<+camerongray> I do need a bigger TV though so hopefully they do accept a return :P
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> my stepdad's old computer was a XT clone. Lime green MDA display and a tendency to hang with "Internal Stack Overflow, System Halted"
[09:20]<+camerongray> lol!
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> My Mum decided to rip the entire machine apart for absolutely no reason
[09:20]<+camerongray> Oh ;P
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> I said "but it might be worth money"
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> she said "no it's garbage"
[09:20]<+camerongray> wow
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> this was around 10 years ago
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> needless to say I was right
[09:20]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:21]<+camerongray> I still blame my mum's logic of "Get the Sony TV, it will last longer than that LG you are looking at"
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> then again the 286 I had might have had some value on ebay but I tossed that too
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> that's what happens when you've no place to put stuff though :P
[09:22]<+camerongray> yeah
[09:22]<+camerongray> The issue I have is that I do have places to put stuff
[09:22]<@BC_Programming> come to think of it the 386 was a keeper too... that case was ginormous
[09:23]<+camerongray> I have a 286 but it's dead :(
[09:23]<@jacky> !g ginormous
[09:23]<@jacky> ug
[09:23]<@jacky> !g he's dead, jim
[09:23]<@jacky> heh
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> "Bones, if the Shoe fit's, wear it"
[09:24]<+camerongray> PSU blew - I was able to hook up an ATX PSU after working out the correct pins but got loads of random ASCII on the screen and a message abour power-up failure
[09:24]<@BC_Programming> "Dammit Jim I'm a Doctor not a shoe salesman"
[09:24]<+camerongray> But I couldn't hook up -5v so maybe that was the issue
[09:24]<@jacky> camerongray: " and a message abour power-up failure" << join the other channel. they NEVER have this heheheehehehe
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> you needed an AT power supply
[09:25]<+camerongray> haah!
[09:25]<+camerongray> Yeah
[09:25]<@jacky> :)
[09:25]<+camerongray> Well, I tried the Ambra's but it either didn't work or gave the same error
[09:25]<@BC_Programming> did you try clearing your cache
[09:25]<+camerongray> Then again, me trying to jam wires into the AT connector probably didn't make for the best connections
[09:26]<@jacky> camerongray: you need a Ram Welder
[09:26]<+camerongray> haha!
[09:26]<+camerongray> I still have it - Will look at it when I get round to it
[09:26]<@jacky> it is special... uses very low arc
[09:26]<@jacky> :)
[09:26]<+camerongray> Not worth much though - Was a very low end machine new
[09:26]<+camerongray> i.e. 286 from 1992
[09:26]<@BC_Programming> I Ram Welded two Sheep together before
[09:27]<@jacky> did they like it?
[09:27]<+camerongray> hahaa!
[09:27]<@jacky> or was it baaaaaaaad ?
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> I asked the Ram actually
[09:27]<@BC_Programming> he said, I don't know about Ewe but I'm enjoying myself
[09:27]<@jacky> BC_Programming: they have a lot of sheep in Scotland, don't they?
[09:27]<@jacky> uh oh
[09:27]<+camerongray> haha - Yep
[09:27]<@jacky> and..... HE'S OFF
[09:27]<@jacky> let him run....
[09:27]<@jacky> hehehe
[09:28]<@BC_Programming> I heard disneyworld in Wales is a sheep leashed to a pole
[09:28]<+camerongray> haha
[09:28]<@jacky> HHAHAHAHAAHAH
[09:28]<@jacky> is it a nice pole though?
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> they don't have strip joints there
[09:29]<+camerongray> I remember getting stuck in the car after they closed a road due to escaped sheep
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> just petting zoos
[09:29]<+camerongray> This was up north though :P
[09:29]<@jacky> I remember getting stuck in the car after they closed a road due to escaped sheep << and I complain about cops and too many rules HERE... sigh...
[09:29]<+camerongray> haha
[09:29]<@jacky> BC_Programming: petting joints?
[09:29]<@BC_Programming> lol I'm imagine it
[09:30]<+camerongray> Come to think of it, I need to go to the Zoo at some point
[09:30]<@jacky> BC_Programming: if that is legal, we should tax it
[09:30]<+camerongray> Not seen the pandas yet
[09:30]<@jacky> camerongray: check on your ancestry?
[09:30]<@jacky> hehe
[09:30]<+camerongray> haha!
[09:30]<@jacky> say Hi to some distant cousins?
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> "Sorry you can't go through here, there are some loose sheep"
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> "Well I can run them over for you if that helps"
[09:31]<@jacky> "I'm BC_Programming, and I'm here with my Ram Welder!"
[09:31]<@BC_Programming> Where would Ewe like me to put it?
[09:32]<@jacky> hold that thought.. I'm evoluting
[09:32]<@jacky> I need to stay ahead of camerongray
[09:32]<@BC_Programming> I used to be a Panda
[09:32]<+camerongray> haha
[09:32]<@BC_Programming> then I got better
[09:33]<@jacky> now what are ewe ?
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> Pandas are terrible drivers though
[09:33]<@jacky> but they sure can putt
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> they just spack into things and disapprove
[09:33]<@BC_Programming> bam! booo!
[09:34]<@jacky> mmm... bamboo
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> precisely
[09:34]<@jacky> steamed... with fried Panda
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> actually forget the bamboo
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> steamed Panda
[09:34]<@jacky> with, or without the goggles?
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> It tastes better because it's endangered
[09:34]<@BC_Programming> that's how it works right?
[09:35]<@jacky> actually, embroiled is what makes it better
[09:35]<@jacky> but you can try it emgrilled too
[09:35]<@BC_Programming> Possums is good eatin
[09:35]<@BC_Programming> Squirrels, not so good, they're like Goldfish, meat's all stringy
[09:35]<@jacky> ( I've been wondering how long it would take...)
[09:36]<@jacky> goldfish? not much there. just snort it
[09:36]<+camerongray> lol
[09:36]<@jacky> speaking of which... I need a sandwich or something
[09:36]<@jacky> camerongray: can you take my place? keep him primed ?
[09:36]<@jacky> be back soo
[09:36]<@jacky> n
[09:36]<@jacky> :)
[09:37]<+camerongray> hehe
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> is he gone?
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> whew
[09:37]<Immental1200> Did you drop the tv?
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> I beg your pardon? Oh
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> I'll have you know the Panda ASKED me to drop he TV on him thank you
[09:39]<@BC_Programming> hmm apparently one of my blog posts on programming languages has offered a visitor "good insight into the car insurance world"
[09:41]<@BC_Programming> "Proper care should be taken to grow mushrooms at home and hence marijuana half life in body practically anyone
[09:41]<@BC_Programming> can cultivate these with complete ease. Women love to cook with mushrooms because, it is beneficial for people
[09:41]<@BC_Programming> with chronic fatigue syndrome as well as people living with HIV AIDS." WTF is this
[09:42]<@BC_Programming> yep that makes sense, "Honey, why do you cook with Mushrooms?" "oh, it's because it cures AIDS"
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> I also like the SEO spam
[09:44]<+camerongray> hahaah!
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> "Hello Web Admin, I noticed that your On-Page SEO is is missing a few factors, for one you do not use all three H tags in your post, also I notice that you are not using bold or italics properly in your SEO optimization. "
[09:44]<@BC_Programming> I'm tempted to do another round-up where I make-fun of spam posts
[09:46]<@BC_Programming> looks like I planned on doing it more than once
[09:46]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/blogs/2011/01/spam-comment-analysis-1/
[09:48]<@BC_Programming> I like the one where one spammer says "Do you people have a facebook fan page? I looked for one on twitter but could not discover one, I would really like to become a fan!"
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> OK here's a problem, not sure if anybody can help but there might be some insights, Programming. C#. Windows Forms
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> Updater program Progress bar works on all the machines we've tested it on except for one of the developers machines, where the progressbars don't display at all
[09:52]<@BC_Programming> IT MAKES NO SENSE
[09:53]<@BC_Programming> That same dev keeps trying to teach me basic C# stuff which I find a tad annoying but also somewhat amusing
[09:56]<Immental1200> Then stay where you are!
[09:56]<Immental1200> :D
[09:58]<PCdoc> Immental1200: no food here :(
[09:58]<PCdoc> stfu man why did u try to lit the fire when it was all over :P
[10:00]<PCdoc> my samsung laser printer, the samsung printer series have one problem with them
[10:00]<PCdoc> you have to change the toner chip everytime you go for refill
[10:00]<PCdoc> double cost
[10:02]<PCdoc> hahha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLFkNXuQfCY
[10:05]<PCdoc> I had also gone for software before hardware. But found c# boring. I use to sleep in class .. and constantly look at watch. When will the clas be over lol
[10:06]<PCdoc> class*
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> that's why you aren't making 18$ an hour
[10:07]<@BC_Programming> well that and you're in India
[10:07]<PCdoc> basically they used to like give us a code randomly and tell us step by step what does that code do
[10:07]<PCdoc> I wonder how is any one suppose to learn c# that way?
[10:07]<PCdoc> understand *
[10:09]<PCdoc> Once I asked the lady tutor "Ok, it does so and so, but how to determine which code to add?" she was clueless
[10:10]<PCdoc> As if I was challenging her knowledge in front of other students
[10:11]<PCdoc> cya letrs. going home
[10:11]<PCdoc> laters *
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[11:27]<TuN> Yo!
[12:22]<Immental1200> camerongray - is your new server racked yet? I just remembered the other host!
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